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How to Make it on YouTube in 2025 (Jack Conte Interview)

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00:00 Intro 00:38 The death of the follower 08:54 The new discovery layer of the internet 15:27 How to optimize creativity vs strategy in 2025 20:50 Patreon’s State of Create report 31:51 Endurance as an artist 37:42 What happens next with the creator economy? 43:12 Patreon’s membership model competition - YouTube, Spotify, etc 1:01:02 The three rules of YouTube 1:12:39 What does autotelic mean? 1:21:33 The steps to create a successful creator business 1:36:13 Creativity in the future 1:47:45 Patreon’s biggest problems right now

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